Today I had the great pleasure of attending a live simulcast of The Elephant Room Round 2. The awesome folks at Blueprint Church in Atlanta were kind enough to host the event and I can't say enough about their warmness. Out here in suburbia I don't get much diversity at my local church; it was wonderful to see the way that Blueprint facilitates people from all ethnic tribes into an authentic relationship with Jesus!
The highlight of the day for me was when TD Jakes confessed a Trinitarian view and received a fist-bump from Mark Driscoll in return. I thought that moment captured the purpose of the event so well. It was a great day of grace and truth as 7 prominent Christian brothers came together and spoke with civility, depth, and rawness about some of the most important issues facing the church today.
I know that there will always be some people out there, many of whom didn't even sit down and watch the talks, who will tear apart all the things that were said today in an effort to look for the slightest hint of heresy. Thats the mindset I am naturally inclined towards myself. I thank God for The Elephant Room because I need a constant reminder to "Preach the Gospel and not Critique the Gospel" as Steven Furtick said earlier.
Here are a few more of the most profound (paraphrased) quotes that I took down today...
Don't cloud the gospel
Crawford
Denominations still deserve some honor and respect for their work in pioneering the way for many of us.
Steven
Baptism isn't what saves you, but it is the first thing saved people do.
James
Work on yourself more than your ministry or you'll burn out. Those around you will be automatic beneficiaries if you take care of you.
Wayne
The devil doesn't care which side of the boat you go off.
Wayne
We who herald the truth often do not tell the truth beyond that truth we herald.
Jakes
We need to stop looking in the mirror and singing "how great thou art."
Crawford
God doesn't use what we bring to the table he uses what we surrender to him
Crawford
Your church can be no more integrated than your life.
Jakes
The church isn't doing as well as the nightclubs when it comes to integration.
Jakes
I am appalled by the lack of moral courage in the church of Christ today.
Crawford
Heaven will be awesome because the richness of all the nations will be represented.
James
You can tell a lot about a mans life by the countenance of his wife.
James
We get so focused on a fallen leaders sin that we don't see the dysfunction in the family that led to the moral failure.
Jakes
Create a culture of holiness in your leaders...
Wayne
You can teach what you know but you are gonna reproduce what you are.
Wayne
Some people say they are defending the gospel when they are really just crappy friends.
Steven
The closer we are to the gospel the closer we are to each other.
Crawford
Give your life to Jesus, its worth it even if nothing visible comes of it.
James
I'm really concerned for this generation because its so disconnected from the faith rhythms that went down the corridors of time before it.
Crawford
We must be careful not to become a sub-culture instead of a counter culture.
Wayne
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BTW - They are doing a special offer for just the next few hours...
Round 2 DVDs for $39.00
Both Rounds DVDs for $69.00
http://www.theelephantroom.com/presale
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A good article on the ER2.
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2012/01/26/grace-and-truth-beyond-the-elephant-room/
Do you think it is undeniable that Jakes' is Trinitarian? What about that he does not denounce Oneness as heresy? Or that it was the Oneness folks to granted him the title of "Bishop"?
ReplyDeleteJakes seemed to clearly affirm that he believed in one God, three persons. Did you watch the ER? The whole point of today was that we have to stop digging to find our differences and seek unity instead. Most of the style and methods that Jakes uses are not what I would do, but when he was given the stage he professed orthodox doctrine. Who am I to say he is lying? God will judge his heart.
ReplyDeleteShould he be more firm on breaking ties with his old Oneness pals...maybe, but I do not believe that a failure to decry something you don't believe as a heresy makes you a heretic. I think that Jakes showed courage today, Jesus was glorified today, and the two of us have better things to do today than nitpick Jakes. He spoke, let his word stand.
The Trinity is most certainly mysterious and we will do well to refrain from passing judgement too quickly on Jakes.